8/10 After hearing all the hype about Ridley Scott and Matt Damon's new film the Martian I was quite eager to see how Scott was going to follow up Prometheus, a film I rather enjoyed even though I hear a lot of complaining about the plot holes to which I do agree exist. The technology for this is a pattern of dots which are black on both faces, then : selected ones are coloured on one face for the "inside" view, and different selected ones are coloured on the other face for the outside view. The MSL logo was changed and United Launch Alliance logo removed in the one closeup shot of the rocket. Mars storms are much more violent than earth's and can topple big ascending vehicles despite it's atmosphere being hundred times thinner. Continuing, as he did, would have made his speed relative to the commander exceedingly more difficult as it increased moment by moment. But the breakup is a Delta rocket with a dark rocket body and flush payload faring (footage is from the Delta 178 GOES-G launch failure in 1986). Please make sure to properly capitalize and punctuate your entry =), We've lovingly mined 1,939 movies for 54,195 learnings, This list was started on 20th January 2016 by, This list was last updated on 24th January 2016. ... Easter Eggs & Plot Holes Explained! The Martian. Plot holes and inconsistencies are not the same thing. The actual device is a 3-story-high CNC robotic arm that lifts cargo packets and inserts them into a capsule to prevent damage to the capsule or its doorways from manhandling cargo inside. Out of all of those other things that would certainly have been able to "phone home". Martinez announces that he's shutting down the MAV's 2nd-stage engines, even though he knows the capsule isn't high enough and there's still fuel in the tanks. Other wise, the crew would never been able to greet Watney when he came back aboard the Hermes. But first, let yourself be carried up, up and away by … The film shows Watney following a parachute and shrouds to find the buried Pathfinder lander, but the Pathfinder used a unique airbag system that involved cutting the lander loose from the parachute and Rocket Assisted Deceleration System above the surface. If the center hub was fixed to the spokes and rim, the astronauts would just turn with the hub and they wouldn't notice it. It is a major plot point that it was parked right next to the hab on Sol 18 and not moved again. ASCII (and alphabets generally) are not inherently linked to hexadecimal numbers; however, without this NASA would not have been able to communicate the changes to the code of the rover. Matt Damon (Mark) is the Martian by the way, in case the various posters didn’t make it quite clear already. It just lacked all spontaneity and mystery because everything is laid out before you. In the ending scenes on the control room screen the Ares V stage separation happens not later than T plus 47 seconds. Spoilers.....!!!!! A death defying activity like manuvering through space can be made less scary if you compare it to being like an Avenger. Watney could not move through space headfirst, with his arms at his sides like Ironman, unless he punctured both left and right gloves. This scene was probably shot in Hungary; European WWII cemeteries typically use headstones in the shape of the desired symbol. But unlike Superman -- who got to grow up on Earth and make bonds with the world -- J'onn J'onzz came as an adult and never stops looking for his people. Excellent space thriller mixes peril, charm, real science. Mars will come to fear Mark's botany powers. The American flag hanging inside the JPL building is displayed with the blue background to the observer's right, which is a violation of the U.S. Gravity was visually stunning but I thought the theme went very dark at times while Interstellar was breathtaking in special effects, sound track and story, its plot was riddled with too many holes. Harvesting should wait at least until the plant starts to die off. After being stranded Mark complains about Commander Lewis' disco music. The watch is a Hamilton "Below Zero" model that has an automatic movement and does not beep regardless of what is pressed on it. These include: Astronauts wouldn't really walk on Mars with a lower gravitational field. When Watney first tries to make water using hydrazine, it explodes and he explains it by saying "best guess: I forgot to account for the excess oxygen I've been exhaling." There is then a shot of an earthbound genius jumping on the roof repeatedly and finally falling through it to create the hole, followed immediately by Watney jumping on the roof on Mars and falling through the hole. It should have had them going to ask permission. With rover data, we've learned that Martian surface dirt contains roughly 0.5% Calcium Perchlorate. When the Hermes is first shown approaching Earth, dialogue indicates that it is on its deceleration burn. The secret project created to use the Hermes to return to Mars to rescue Watney was called Project Elrond, a reference from the Lord of the Rings (also used in the original book of The Martian). The plot hole only becomes apparent as Watney narrates the Mars mission steps. When Mark ponders about how to pose for the requested picture, you can see his hydrazine reaction plant in the background still working (flame on top is burning). In fact, it would always be very warm inside the rover. The Martian (2015) : Movie Plot Ending Explained In short, Martian is a good film with no major pitfalls but also nothing that makes you go wow. Under Soviet influence most socialist countries have trains painted green; however it was mainly abolished recently in China as the China Railway High-speed (CRH) service rolled out, and CRH mainly used white-painted Hexie Hao trains, and Hexie Hao can reach a speed of 220 mph, much faster than shown in the movie. I hate watching a movie with someone and the other person goes, “that would never happen.” It’s like, no shit. Soundtracks. Then he pulls the antenna out of his abdomen and throws it on the floor. 8:00. In the wheel's interior, when Jack frees himself he lands on his feet, begins to run and promptly hits his head on one of those axle bars, then falls out. When Mark leaves the Hab to travel to the Ares IV site, he says (and it is repeated by Vincent on Earth) that he was not expressly given permission to board the MAV, making him a pirate. The long stems of the potatoes show that these were transplanted to the set and had been grown at a proper depth. NASA has developed a form of paper processed from stone specifically so it cannot burn. Read the book, was disappointed by plot holes and technical errors. The Martian - Plot Holes, Clarifications or Questions by ericvschultz » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:04 pm Hi Andy - first things first: I find the story absolutely brilliant. Right after the Iris supply probe explodes, Director Sanders walks past behind Annie Montrose, and then he shows the red folder to her and walks past her again. It was first published serially in 1897. In the near vacuum of the Mars atmosphere he would not be able to hear it. When Johanssen leaves the control room to get the bomb from Vogel, her shoes go from plain white to ones with the Nike logo. A mere two days later, on Sol 94, he is at the Pathfinder site. An essential part of the plot are the MAVs. They sell it to the public at NASA gift shops and museums. The hole was large enough for an astronaut to walk through in length, suggesting the hole was at least 2 meters in diameter. Given that wind force is a function of velocity and atmospheric density, a 120 mile per hour Martian storm would only have a dynamic force of approximately 12 miles per hour — great for Martian … However, the camera that took this photo was the pathfinder, which took normal black and white images, as seen in the "Yes" "No" question card scene. The secret project created to use the Hermes to return to Mars to rescue Watney was called Project Elrond, a reference from the Lord of the Rings (also used in the original book of The Martian). Plot holes are sometimes plugged up or ignored with a Hand Wave, or occasionally dealt with by a Lampshade Hanging, and some writers think Plot Holes that only become apparent well after the story is over aren't worth sweating.. Vincent's e-mail is presented to Mindy on Sol 54 with a time-stamp of 00:35:16 (no date), but the bottom of the screen shows SOL 462 19:28:30, which would be the day after the pirate scene when Watney leaves the Hab much later in the film. He has been on the planet for six Martian days, referred to as sols. Ares 3 astronaut Mark Watney begins recording his log of his Mars residency. They shouldn't be able to just turn their bodies in midair. I expect "The Martian" will find the box-office velocity it deserves. During the shot, we can clearly hear Vincent starting to say "Oh Jesus Christ..." but Vincent is not seen moving his lips or gesturing. He sits down and starts typing his name and password. The book spells this out, and nothing in the movie contradicts this. People on the International Space Station are near enough Earth to be protected by this planet's magnetosphere, but people and potato plants on the surface of Mars would not have any such protection, since Mars lost its magnetic field long ago. The next shot of the model shows the interior with a control module and other parts that get removed. Loading... Unsubscribe from Media Minded? In one shot, the interior of the model is seen with nothing but one seat for Mark Watney. The way he has his arms stretch out to the side would only cause him to spin wildly. The commercials… These are all very well recognizable landmarks of the Hungarian capital, although tourists usually don't visit them. At the end of the scene where it displays the China National Space Administration, a green train can be seen passing by slowly. If it was still upright under the sand as it is shown later after he excavates it, it would have been sticking out of the sand and he would have seen it right away. Other Martian survivors or criminals have cropped up since, but it doesn't change the fact that J'onn is the last embodiment of Martian peace and honor. When he digs a little in the sand, he then finds the solar panel of Pathfinder. The Martian Plot Summary. He would have turned uncontrollably. The film seemed to imply that NASA communicates with deep space probes by working with identical spacecraft on Earth, as seen in all of the Pathfinder scenes. Kapoor makes a mark at the Hab, then asks Mindy where Mark is; he makes a second mark there, then extends the line between those two points to the Pathfinder site. It's clearly out of sequence as he is dressed differently in the toilet sequence and is chewing in the two scenes either side. Then he grabs some surgical tools and extracts the remaining piece of the antenna tip and takes the antenna out of the surgical tray nearby to match the tip up to the end of the antenna. That means that it would be May or June on Earth. In interviews. All the hatches in the Hermes are operated remotely, so apparently there was no need to use explosives to breach the ship. You can call a movie The Martian, even thought it contains no Martians whatsoever. The HAB is designed for 6 people, and has 2 tiers of 3 bunks. In order to create a safe Oxyliquit explosive, place the sugar and bomb casing on the door out in space to cool before adding LOX, and the added benefit of not carrying a "stick of dynamite" through the space craft. When seen in the long shot, it is instead a zig-zag underline. With an atmospheric pressure of 1 Bar (100 kPa), it would equate to approximately 3.2 tons of pressure onto the seal(if the outside atmosphere is neglected, since it is less than 0.01 Bar). When the MAV launches it leaves a billowing exhaust plume more typical of solid rocket boosters despite clearly being powered by liquid fuel engines. The goof items below may give away important plot points. He has been on the planet for six Martian days, referred to as sols. Throughout The Martian, Mark Watney must contend with the ideas of isolation and abandonment. In the book, Mark does have baths. The Martian is a 2011 science fiction novel written by Andy Weir.It was his debut novel under his own name. Since the waste has been exposed to near vacuum, all the water boiled off and also deep frozen, there wouldn't be any bacteria left. Were he actually able to do that, he would not have needed to continue releasing gas once he had momentum. Mindy Park receives an email from Vincent Kapoor to look at the HAV, then she contacts security to obtain Vincent's emergency contact number. The coordinates given for The Hab, 31.2°N 28.5°W, are in Chryse Planitia, which is a region just south of the stated location of Acidalia Planitia. What appears on Watney's screen is "We don't like you.". Once the camera was pointed at "Yes", Mark would positively know that communications had been established with NASA. American flag positioning at first press conference - Old Glory should have been at our left, not on the right. Hence the bags content wouldn't smell. During the rescue, when the commander has grabbed Mark, the tether forms a halo around them and maintains this shape as they are being pulled in to the ship. In the MAV takeoff scene in the beginning of the movie, the MAV appears to be very vulnerable to strong storms present on Mars and easily tipped over. I expect "The Martian" will find the box-office velocity it deserves. By the time you see The Martian in movie theaters next week, one of its biggest plot points will already be a plot hole—thanks to this week’s announcement of water on Mars. Since Mars' thin atmosphere doesn't have any Oxygen, nothing could burn or smolder. This would not matter, because it was not being used. It was originally self-published in 2011; Crown Publishing purchased the rights and re-released it in 2014. The sequel, "Leather Goddesses of Phobos II: Gas Pump Girls Meet the Pulsating Inconvenience from Planet X!" One can even notice he is walking downhill by the small, stomping steps he takes. The novel details a catastrophic conflict between humans and extraterrestrial ‘Martians.’ It is a considered a landmark work of science fiction, and it has inspired numerous adaptations and imitations. RTG's must radiate waste heat through their cooling fins in order to generate electricity, burying one underground would have prevented it from functioning. Elite Daily. The Martian Stranded on Mars when a manned mission goes wrong, Mark Watney (Matt Damon) has limited rations, limited resources and as for help, well it’s only 140 million miles away. It wouldn't cause violent changes in velocity and would be easily controlled. For the purposes of this list, we’ll tackle any major plot holes from Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl. When the connection with pathfinder is first established the remote station says it has no functioning solar panels and certain sensors missing, while Mark rescues the probe intact. When Commander Lewis finally grabs Watney and everyone is relieved, the puncture in his glove has stopped spewing air. However, if the MAV can tip with a severe storm, which is something that should be able to be predicted, how can the MAVs be sent years before the respective manned missions and never tip? KarzetTRUBA. In the microgravity section of the Hermes, astronauts exhibited non-ballistic motion while making right turns from one tunnel to another. Crazy Credits Mitch Henderson, played by Sean Bean, was an attendee at the Project Elrond meeting. So revealing it would be a Politburo decision, not one that scientist-administrators could make on their own. In the novel, at that point, he had lost communications with Earth so it made sense. When Watney finally controls his perforated glove, the puncture is oriented towards the side. Two astronauts entangled in the tether and spiraling from the thrust of the leaking glove should spin faster and faster as the tether gets shorter. On Sol 19, when Mark Watney is walking back to the hab after the storm, the rover is shown about 100 feet from the hab partially obscured by a small hill. Weir was working as a lowly computer programmer, writing as a side gig when he tried to get the book picked up. Watney is exploring the storage cabinets in the base and then eats while itemising his food supply. NASA is overseen by an Administrator. I won't be able to answer them all the questions but others on this page might if you post them. Unsymmetrical DiMethyl Hydrazine (UDMH) and MonoMethyl Hydrazine (MMH) singularly or a mixture of the two, (Aerozine 50) are common propellants desirable because of their stability in long term storage and that when used with an oxidizer like Nitrogen Tetroxide no external ignition source is required. At any point in the Hermes gravity wheel, everyone would walk like they are on a level surface. Mark is shown digging up the Radioisotope Thermometric Generator (RTG) which had been deliberately buried in the sand. This is a violation of the United States Code, 4 U.S.C. In the establishing shot of the Johnson Space Center, there are large hangers like those used to house the space shuttle. When Watney checks his watch, he pushes on the crown and the watch beeps. Yet people in New York and Beijing watching Mark's rescue are all dressed as if it is the middle of winter, not to mention, there are snow flurries in front of the CNSA Headquarters in Beijing. When Alex gets the Rich Purnell Maneuvers, he's expecting a JPG image of his children. At the Jet Propulsion Lab, we see the Pathfinder replica/model folded up and then unfolded with a three-foot mechanical piece on the top of the solar panels which holds the computer and camera. There have already been experiments in growing crops in space. Scott Free Productions Report. If the bomb is to be electrically detonated by supplying current via a lighting panel connection, there should be no power flowing to the device prior to detonation, and no flashing light. The Biggest Plot Hole. Quindar tones have not been used since the early 1980s. Teach your students to analyze literature like LitCharts does. Also, the wind on Mars is much too weak to carry large rocks. The movie makes the point that Mark Watney would be traveling faster than any human ever had during his ascent from Mars. The Ares III mission starts in early November, and Mark is rescued after 561 sols. Martian Manhunter is one of the most tragic figures in the DC Universe. The Hab should be EMF-shielded to prevent radiation exposure of the crew as Mars has little natural solar or cosmic radiation shielding, however the rover part of pathfinder, non-functioning in the book, can be seen roving the Hab in the closing days before Mark's journey to Aries IV. When Watney retrieves the RTG he only used it to heat the cabin of the rover. Watney has been stranded after his crewmates were forced to evacuate the planet because of a violent dust storm. The individual NASA facilities have directors. The Martian is a science-fiction film based on Andrew Weir's novel of the same name.Set in the year 2035, the film follows astronaut Mark Watney in his efforts to survive alone on Mars after his crewmates were forced to abandon the mission site believing him dead.Upon learning that Mark is alive, the crew takes a major risk heading back to Mars to rescue him. Hermes was only depressurized to slow it down, then re-pressurized. Watney has been stranded after his crewmates were forced to evacuate the planet because of a violent dust storm. Final score: 62 points. More from. Before he is shown removing the control consoles, a shot was inserted in which everything except one seat had all already been removed, so the consoles disappear and reappear. Watney could have made an alphabet with only six characters - NASA could represent 36 different values (all 26 letters and 10 digits) using two characters per value (same as ASCII), and Watney would maintain 51 degrees of separation between characters (including the question card) and thereby eliminate risk of ambiguity. The exposure limit for hydrazine propellant is in the range of 0.05-0.1ppm (parts per million). It seems as if the reporter is updating the world audience in "real time" which is impossible, due to the 12 minute communication delay. After the Iris probe explodes, Annie Montrose turns and walks towards her left several steps. He would not have flown straight. Even still, some of these plot holes are glaringly obvious, which is why we will be pointing them out. Nobody notices a giant storm directly in their eyesight until being warned by the mission control. We cut to Mindy Park and Vincent Kapoor, who very clearly states that Mark has been traveling for 13 days without changing course. KEEP READING: Superman: Man of Tomorrow - Martian Manhunter's Hail Mary Play Has a Major Plot Hole This is even more of a question because of the games found on Johanssen's laptop. Several decades of exploration by orbiting and in situ spacecraft, together with analysis of martian meteorites, have resulted in a wealth of data on the chemical composition of Mars' crust. The recipe for water: Take hydrogen. However, those nuts and bolts can be seen floating around before the spacecraft finishes its burn, which would not be possible when it is still accelerating. The wording of this boot message exactly matches the boot message in the book where Mark destroyed these panels in order to free the communications section and lift it onto the roof of the rover. In her role, she would certainly have known the tether was nowhere close to long enough. At various points in the movie, the "head up display" of Watneys space suit is shown, giving environmental and suit data on the atmospheric pressure and oxygen content. The Parents Guide items below may give away important plot points. While the flag is on the stage, it is being displayed TO the audience, and the American flag ALWAYS is positioned to its own right - no flag can go to its right. When placing the bomb on the VAL Door it is attached and Beck says the bomb is set, and a flashing light appears on the bomb. The drip setup in the HAB kitchen/potato farm would have exposed Watney to a significant, most likely lethal amount of hydrazine especially after the explosion. The contents might be accessible through the hole, but then nothing would be holding them up. The Potato, also known as Solanum Tuberosum, was one of the most important things when it came to keeping Mark Watney alive on Mars. It would also be much more likely to happen within the airlock, in the area between the two doors, where the strain on the walls (which look flexible, but are never shown to flex as the pressure changes) changes with each pressurization or depressurization, than on the Hab side of the inner door where the pressures would be constant, but there's an outside chance that it could have been coincidence, bad luck, and/or the airlock jiggling as it cycled. By the time you see The Martian in movie theaters next week, one of its biggest plot points will already be a plot hole—thanks to this week’s announcement of water on Mars. Therefore, it should be day on Mars in order to enable communication with Earth through Pathfinder. NASA can see Watney's question card, so Watney could have written out an explanation to his base-6 code for NASA to follow. Given the low atmospheric pressure on Mars, the flexible plastic tarp would have at minimum half sea-level pressure on the inside (the minimum pressure for human activity) or about 7psi, and basically a vacuum on the other side. We hear three more lines of text appear, however when the movie cuts back to show us the screen, none of those three lines that were heard are on the screen. He was sent to Mars to try and grow ferns, not *edible* plants. When Watney is recovering his crewmates' waste to use as fertilizer, after opening a bag marked as having come from Dr. Beck, Watney makes a comment attributing the smell to Johanssen. This is the only thing I noticed that was completely impossible, as opposed to improbable or sub-optimal. The stuff is bundled up in a tarp and strapped to the roof of the rover over the hole. Mark Watney says that if exposed to space without a pressurized suit he would implode, but in fact he would explode. The Martian's fried to a crisp, leaving ash behind. The Martian is a 2015 science fiction comedy-drama film directed by Ridley Scott and starring Matt Damon. He counts off packages of Sweet and Sour Chicken and adds them to the list in his notebook. McSween et al. It is likely that the reporter is reporting live based on the communication as it is arriving to Earth. When Watney gets Pathfinder working, he responds to the sound of the machinery operating. When Watney reaches the Hab with the antenna sticking out of his suit, he takes off helmet and upper chest cover. A good pilot cuts the engines off shortly before this happens, like Martinez did. When Vincent and Bruce are walking into the warehouse, a bicycle rider says hi and rides past them on the side. Instant downloads of all 1393 LitChart PDFs (including The Martian). During his exit from the MAV, air can be heard hissing from the punctured glove. When the first satellite images of the Ares 4 site are viewed, Mindy, Teddy and Vincent see only that the solar panels have been cleaned and the rover moved. THE MARTIAN. When the video file from Mitch Henderson arrives and everyone is gathering around the monitor, Vogel walks towards it as if walking down an incline. The Martian (2015) "Dust storms of destructive magnitudes physically cannot happen on Mars, but Matt Damon can still play one hell of a botanist." The Martian is a sci-fi novel by Andy Weir that has a super crazy story about how it came to be. ", In the music writing credits for "Hot Stuff," Harold Faltermeyer's last name is misspelled as "Faltermeier.". While the movie portrays the Martian sunset as similar to the Earthen sunset, in reality the Martian sunset has a smaller, less bright sun and sets in shades of blue and pink. In a voiceover, Mark states that he can salvage unused hydrazine from the MDV. In Mindy's first scene, the time is presented as 1:30 AM in Houston. When Mark ascends from Mars, the camera focuses on his face, with nuts and bolts floating around him. The escape velocity of Mars is much less than that of Earth, so it would seem the Apollo astronauts would still hold the record for being the fastest that humans have ever traveled. Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice star Harry Lennix has confirmed that he shot scenes for Zack Snyder's Justice League that will reveal his character General Calvin Swanwick is secretly the DC hero Martian Manhunter. (1:37:20). While it isn't recommended to use human waste as fertilizer to grow potatoes on Mars, it IS possible. But John Logsdon, a former director of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, has flagged a black hole in a central plot development. Teddy's character is identified as the Director of NASA. When he needs to cut a hole in the roof of his rover vehicle, Watney says that the geniuses on earth suggest drilling holes in the roof and then hitting it with a rock. The Martian - Plot Holes, Clarifications or Questions by ericvschultz » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:04 pm Hi Andy - first things first: I find the story absolutely brilliant. When Mark is making the trip to retrieve Pathfinder, he departs no earlier than Sol 79. The story follows an American astronaut, Mark Watney, as he becomes stranded alone on Mars in 2035 and must improvise in order to survive. The Hermes has a rotating joint to connect the stationary center hub with the rotating spokes and rim. After deciding to go and rescue Mark Watney, the Hermes crew is evaluating their resources. It's likely that Mark just wiped himself off with a damp towel (just like astronauts on the ISS do), or even just a dry towel, to maintain a minimum of hygiene. 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